Now that I'm shifting that balance, I'm finding ways ot do things in VB that are pretty much taken for granted in Access.<P>Like subforms. I have a code routine for opening and positioning a form ...

You can assign that to a variable or to a text box on the form, then do what you'd like with it. <BR>To have it run on a button click, create a button, then dump the code into the OnClick event.